Top 19 SF&F TV Shows by Audience Vote

[tommo]

According to a bunch of people in a room at SwanCon, here are the 19 best SF&F TV shows of all time:

1. Doctor Who
2. Firefly
3. Red Dwarf
4. Battlestar Galactica (new series)
5. Babylon 5
6. Blake's 7
7. Star Trek: The Next Generation (tie)
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (tie)
9. Farscape (tie)
Buffy (tie)
Ultraviolet (tie)
Futurama (tie)
13. Stargate: SG1
14. Invader Zim
15. Angel (tie)
Transformers (tie)
Monkey (tie)
18. Torchwood
19. Heroes

Didn't have enough time to run tiebreakers on the ties (which also would've given us our #20), so this will have to do.

I don't suppose anyone has a record of the lists from Top 10 Villains (2008) and Top 10 Movies based on Comics (2007), do they? I forgot to write them down and it'd be nice to have a record of the results. I only really remember the winners...

Comments

Random thought

[greteldragon.livejournal.com]

It'd be interesting to do one of these ones every year, then after 10 years track the results, and see how many shows don't pass the time test, and which ones still stick out.

I'm guessing Dr Who will still be popular though.

Re: Random thought

[tommmo.livejournal.com]

It'd be interesting to do one every year as an lj poll or somesuch, but I'm not a big fan of rehashing panels without very good reason, so running the same one for 10 years straight would be a bit of a crime in my opinion :P

You're right, though, it would be interesting to track the movements over time.

Re: Random thought

[greteldragon.livejournal.com]

*nods*

Yeah it'd be boring to actually do it as a panel every year... but as stats it'd be interesting. Maybe we should get angriest to do his 50 top poll every year or something :P

I think some panels can be rehashed more so than others. Certainly top 20 type panels can be recycled every few years as people forget the previous results, and as long as a show or comic remains hugely popular and people want to, there's no reason not to have a DrWho or a Batman or a whatever panel every year... just as long as you aren't covering the same thing, ever year.

Re: Random thought

[tommmo.livejournal.com]

Yeah, pretty much. It's okay to have the same general topic on a semi-regular basis, but the content needs to differ.

angriest should totally do another top 50 poll :)

Re: Random thought

[angriest.livejournal.com]

Can't remember the results of the last one.

Re: Random thought

[tommmo.livejournal.com]

I remember that Doctor Who won, and that I single-handedly got The Maxx in somewhere in the bottom half :)

Re: Random thought

[angriest.livejournal.com]

Well there's been a Doctor Who panel every year now for 17 years, plus I'm sure other people did them before that.

Next year you and I should do Robin and sidekicks, cause Robin will be turning 70. (Batman turns 70 this Saturday!!)

Re: Random thought

[tommmo.livejournal.com]

But the Doctor Who panels always have a different angle, don't they?

I attended the Doctor Who panel this year (my first one) and thought it was great. Do you guys always do it as a retrospective on a particular season? It's a good format. I'm wondering if we should copy it with some other shows.

Re: Random thought

[angriest.livejournal.com]

We started doing it two years ago with Season 18 (Tom's last year). Then last year we did Season 1, this year Season 24 and I think next year we're likely to do Season 7 (Pertwee's first).

Re: Random thought

[tommmo.livejournal.com]

I definitely think it's a good approach. When you can section something like that into manageable, easy-to-define portions it becomes easier to view it with a critical eye. I think it also makes it easier for members of the audience who aren't so familiar with the show, as they'll still have a good sense of place and time for everything that's being discussed.

I've actually only watched a handful of Doctor Who episodes. It's one of those things that I'm interested in delving into, but is so immense I'm not quite sure where I'd start. Is it the sort of thing where you can get a good "primer" of 20 or 30 episodes to begin with, or are you better off going from the start (well, as close to the start as is available) and watching it all chronologically?

Re: Random thought

[angriest.livejournal.com]

The show goes through phases, which makes it pretty easy to jump in and enjoy them without bothering with the rest. Good starting points:

- "An Unearthly Child", which is the very first serial from 1963. Black and white, comparatively very slow to modern TV.
- "Spearhead From Space", the first colour serial plus the first for third Doctor Jon Pertwee. This begins the "UNIT" phase of the show, set in 1970s Earth with regular mad scientists and alien invasions.
- "Ark in Space", Tom Baker's second story and really the first one to fully break away from the UNIT phase.

But really it might just be a matter of grabbing random stories on DVD and giving them a watch.

Re: Random thought

[tommmo.livejournal.com]

Cool, thanks for the suggestions. I'll use those as a starting point.

I'm hesitant to just grab random stories. There's so much classic SF television I'm keen to check out, so I'd rather not risk wasting time on stuff that doesn't end up being worth watching.

Re: Random thought

[nevryn.livejournal.com]

Don't randomly grab 'Timelash' then. Or 'Four to Doomsday'. Or 'Time and the Rani', but that's not out on DVD yet.

Re: Random thought

[tommmo.livejournal.com]

Oh, and a panel on Robin and other sidekicks is a fantastic idea.

Re: Random thought

[greteldragon.livejournal.com]

I'm in for this. I would like to help organise it this time, so I know what's on the slides and where to start and stuff. Plus I'm sure I have lots of pretty Robin pictures hanging around. :)

That way I figure I'll be able to say more. (Plus you know, if I drink heavily I'm going to be a much better panelists, rather than a painkiller high).

Re: Random thought

[angriest.livejournal.com]

Sounds good to me.